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Old 08-21-2013, 11:49 AM
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Dear David & other friends,
thank you very much for your attention and your valuable suggestions. Now I understand tha "tweaking" a given midi guitar track is almost an impossible job, especially when the part is many dozens of bars long ... It would be probably quickerto play it again or buildin it from scratch using the clever tricks you were talking about. Nevertheless, I guess that it should not be so difficult to produce a bit of software able to "read" a midi track and "translate" all the block chords into tight ARPEGGI (since arpeggio is an italian word, the plural is that, no excuses ...), maybe with the possibility of adding some casual disorders in velocity. This would suit a decent result in 90% of cases, I am sure!
Thank you again, God bless

Paolo
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:38 AM
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Hi Paolo,
Most music for motion picture and TV drama is now produced at the computer, using sample libraries and advanced software. Some programs have a humanizing function built in. However, for realistic results, you do not get away from extensive midi editing. For any project to be successful, you need to put the work in. It is not impossible. As a rule of thumb, you will spend an hour for each minute of music produced. Wagner needed 20 years to create the “Ring” and he truly was a genius. If he had a computer, he may have spend another 20 years to do away with the orchestra.

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PS The last sentence above should read: If he had a computer and “Notation Composer”, ...
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:15 AM
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Dear Herbert,
one hour of midi editing for a minute of music is for sure a professional approach to the job. An amateur would not afford this in most cases, I think, unless your hobby is midi intself and not the joy of playing music with your fingers!
Thank you again for your kind interest!

Paolo
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Old 08-22-2013, 12:28 PM
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Herbert said :PS The last sentence above should read: If he had a computer and “Notation Composer”, ..."

Yes, Wagner would have used a computer.

Beethoven, on the other hand, would have said, "Nein! I vill use ze qvill und ze parchment! Now, speak up! Qvit mumbling!"
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Old 08-23-2013, 12:16 AM
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Quite so, David. - Let me also commend you on your near perfect German. Could be useful with the new German owner of "Notation Software Germany UG"
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:11 AM
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Dear Herbert,
one more detail. In a previous message you told ... <<< To get reasonable sounds, you need to do a lot of midi editing. There are several good books available on this subject.>>> Could you suggest me just a pair of these titles suitable for a 54 years old dummy?
Thank you very much!

Paolo
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Old 08-23-2013, 01:42 PM
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Hi Paulo,

One other way to get realistic MIDI files is to record them "live". There are a variety of ways to do this with guitar. You can buy a MIDI/acoustic/electric guitar such as Godin and Parker make, or get a MIDI pickup to put on an existing guitar (Fishman, Roland, and Axon make some fine ones) or on the less expensive end there is the Sonuus unit (which I have the first version which isn't so hot except on single notes, but I hear that they have improved tremendously). There is also a unit called the "You Rock Guitar", which is guitar-shaped, but uses what looks like fence wire for the strings, but is purported to allow a guitarist to do some pretty nifty MIDI work at a fairly minimal price point.

You can use any of these MIDI inputs with Notation Composer, and come out with a live sound AND sheet music. Composer keeps the actual recorded MIDI information, so all the little "humanized" factors are still there, while giving you a good clean piece of sheet music to go with it (provided you've stayed within some reasonable coherence with the metronome If you didn't, you can use the ReBar feature to clean it up.)

Just another thought

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